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		<title>By: Why Rationing of Care Won&#8217;t Work in the US &#171; WhiteCoat&#8217;s Call Room</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] die a slow death from his renal failure. Most families will just call &#8220;911&#8243; and the red taxi with the spinning light on top will come to pick grandpa up at his home and take him to the emergency department. At that time, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a friend that I have known since I was 12.  Her whole family is heavy, her father is a diabetic.  She is now quite heavy and would love to have the opportunity to have a gastric bypass or medical assistance to get her weight under control.  Her problem?  She can&#039;t afford it.  She could save a ton of money now by heading off future health problems related to weight if she could, not to mention increase her self-image and have a better chance of earning more etc etc, but she can&#039;t.

My family also has a predisposition to weight issues.  My grandmother has always had an extremely large chest which ended up causing such severe back problems it impeded her ability to exercise.  I also have ended up with large breasts, and I really wish I hadn&#039;t.  I&#039;m not obese, but I am a little heavier than I would like.  I worry that I will have problems as I age due to weight issues, and I also worry about my chest causing structural problems, but when I mentioned the family predisposition to a previous healthcare provider he mentioned my concerns were merely &#039;cosmetic.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend that I have known since I was 12.  Her whole family is heavy, her father is a diabetic.  She is now quite heavy and would love to have the opportunity to have a gastric bypass or medical assistance to get her weight under control.  Her problem?  She can&#8217;t afford it.  She could save a ton of money now by heading off future health problems related to weight if she could, not to mention increase her self-image and have a better chance of earning more etc etc, but she can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>My family also has a predisposition to weight issues.  My grandmother has always had an extremely large chest which ended up causing such severe back problems it impeded her ability to exercise.  I also have ended up with large breasts, and I really wish I hadn&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m not obese, but I am a little heavier than I would like.  I worry that I will have problems as I age due to weight issues, and I also worry about my chest causing structural problems, but when I mentioned the family predisposition to a previous healthcare provider he mentioned my concerns were merely &#8216;cosmetic.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: EmergencyEmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmergencyEmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hehe, I love this post.]]></description>
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		<title>By: cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/09/a-nation-of-enablers/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody in their right mind would ever suggest that a parent not call an ambulance for their child having a seizure.  The frustration that you read in some medical blogs is because, despite our best efforts, people do not take responsibility for their own health.  Then, those people blame Dr.s and nurses for their chronically high blood sugar, their seizures that don&#039;t respond to NO treatment, etc.

As one of my medic friends says when a patient we get several times a month with a problem that they wouldn&#039;t have if they just complied with treatment.  &#039;Gee, I don&#039;t know what&#039;s wrong.  They&#039;ve tried nothing and nothing seems to work.&#039;

On another note.  If reading about the few patients in the medical blogs that just make us cynical and frustrated upsets you....don&#039;t read them.  For every one of those patients, there are literally hundreds of patients that we do see, and do help and for most of us there is not another job in the world we would be happier doing.  And, just so you know.  Even the patients that we see frequently that refuse to be compliant and are pains in our butts, we still treat them with respect.  Sometimes our blogs are just our way of venting.  A PA friend of mine says working in the ER is  a lot like acting sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody in their right mind would ever suggest that a parent not call an ambulance for their child having a seizure.  The frustration that you read in some medical blogs is because, despite our best efforts, people do not take responsibility for their own health.  Then, those people blame Dr.s and nurses for their chronically high blood sugar, their seizures that don&#8217;t respond to NO treatment, etc.</p>
<p>As one of my medic friends says when a patient we get several times a month with a problem that they wouldn&#8217;t have if they just complied with treatment.  &#8216;Gee, I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s wrong.  They&#8217;ve tried nothing and nothing seems to work.&#8217;</p>
<p>On another note.  If reading about the few patients in the medical blogs that just make us cynical and frustrated upsets you&#8230;.don&#8217;t read them.  For every one of those patients, there are literally hundreds of patients that we do see, and do help and for most of us there is not another job in the world we would be happier doing.  And, just so you know.  Even the patients that we see frequently that refuse to be compliant and are pains in our butts, we still treat them with respect.  Sometimes our blogs are just our way of venting.  A PA friend of mine says working in the ER is  a lot like acting sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let us take a deep breath, these kind of comments are rampant in the industry(I drive an ambulance), they are a coping mechanism.  The truth is that noone wants to return to the Mexican style of health care.  It is frustrating realizing the futility of caring for people who won&#039;t care for themselves, but caring for people is important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us take a deep breath, these kind of comments are rampant in the industry(I drive an ambulance), they are a coping mechanism.  The truth is that noone wants to return to the Mexican style of health care.  It is frustrating realizing the futility of caring for people who won&#8217;t care for themselves, but caring for people is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I agree with ConcernedMother that the tone of all too many medical blogs is simply dripping with condescension for those in need of medical care.&lt;/i&gt;

Here is the thing - you might go through your day and meet only one person who is a waste of oxygen.  We see many, many more.  Like the police we find ourselves regularly going to alcoholics, drug users and general abusers of the medical services.  It wears you down after a while.

Consider the type of person who annoys *you* in your day job, if you work a till it might be the person who takes forever to load their shopping on the belt, if you are a teacher the parent who refuses to accept that their child&#039;s bad behaviour is anything to do with them, or the photographers who try to take pictures of squirming children.

All these things annoy, some more than others.

&lt;b&gt;But&lt;/b&gt; it doesn&#039;t mean that we don&#039;t treat those people the same as the nicest little old lady.  We just snark about it a bit behind their backs - something I&#039;m sure that we are *all* guilty of.

(Or to boil it down - us medical types are human beings as well).

And the &#039;well-educated servants is I suspect what the patient thinks, not what the doctor thinks...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I agree with ConcernedMother that the tone of all too many medical blogs is simply dripping with condescension for those in need of medical care.</i></p>
<p>Here is the thing &#8211; you might go through your day and meet only one person who is a waste of oxygen.  We see many, many more.  Like the police we find ourselves regularly going to alcoholics, drug users and general abusers of the medical services.  It wears you down after a while.</p>
<p>Consider the type of person who annoys *you* in your day job, if you work a till it might be the person who takes forever to load their shopping on the belt, if you are a teacher the parent who refuses to accept that their child&#8217;s bad behaviour is anything to do with them, or the photographers who try to take pictures of squirming children.</p>
<p>All these things annoy, some more than others.</p>
<p><b>But</b> it doesn&#8217;t mean that we don&#8217;t treat those people the same as the nicest little old lady.  We just snark about it a bit behind their backs &#8211; something I&#8217;m sure that we are *all* guilty of.</p>
<p>(Or to boil it down &#8211; us medical types are human beings as well).</p>
<p>And the &#8216;well-educated servants is I suspect what the patient thinks, not what the doctor thinks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/09/a-nation-of-enablers/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your post because I can see how &quot;frequent flyers&quot; expecting everyone to pick up the pieces again and again and again can get very irritating indeed. But is it one or two people coming in repeatedly, or just a lot of people coming in once but with the same problem?

I bet there&#039;s no one here who can say that, in the hurly-burly of their everyday life, they would manage to take several medications a day at exactly the right times and have everything they could possibly need on their person every time they leave the house, every single day for ten, twenty, thirty years or more. Forgetting your tablets is a bit like forgetting your keys or your purse, you know it&#039;s important, you try to remember, but sometimes it just happens.

A teenager I know who has epilepsy has mucked up his medications badly enough for it to cause seizures and hospitalisation once in the last five years. He didn&#039;t do it on purpose (there were a lot of life-events happening to him and his family at the time) and personally, I think one major cock-up in five years isn&#039;t bad going. Yeah, I think he should have been treated, and treated sympathetically at that. I don&#039;t think he should be treated like dirt just because to the doctors, he&#039;s the N-th person they&#039;ve seen this week to get carted in because of a medication error, rather than an individual who has made a one-off honest mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your post because I can see how &#8220;frequent flyers&#8221; expecting everyone to pick up the pieces again and again and again can get very irritating indeed. But is it one or two people coming in repeatedly, or just a lot of people coming in once but with the same problem?</p>
<p>I bet there&#8217;s no one here who can say that, in the hurly-burly of their everyday life, they would manage to take several medications a day at exactly the right times and have everything they could possibly need on their person every time they leave the house, every single day for ten, twenty, thirty years or more. Forgetting your tablets is a bit like forgetting your keys or your purse, you know it&#8217;s important, you try to remember, but sometimes it just happens.</p>
<p>A teenager I know who has epilepsy has mucked up his medications badly enough for it to cause seizures and hospitalisation once in the last five years. He didn&#8217;t do it on purpose (there were a lot of life-events happening to him and his family at the time) and personally, I think one major cock-up in five years isn&#8217;t bad going. Yeah, I think he should have been treated, and treated sympathetically at that. I don&#8217;t think he should be treated like dirt just because to the doctors, he&#8217;s the N-th person they&#8217;ve seen this week to get carted in because of a medication error, rather than an individual who has made a one-off honest mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Melissa is also correct that there are reasons for ‘non-compliance’ that often seem quite rational and logical in the mind of the patient at the time.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, just because they&#039;re &#039;rational and logical&#039; in the mind of the patient doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re rational and logical in the real world.

I have always hated that philosophy. Just because I &#039;perceive&#039; the sky to be purple doesn&#039;t make it so. Just because I &#039;think&#039; I have reasons not to take my meds doesn&#039;t mean those reasons hold water, or that other people should go along with said reasons.

I&#039;ve thought about writing a story (and if we ever go to a single-payer system, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if this actually happens) wherein if you don&#039;t have a yearly physical and other recommended screening tests, and if you don&#039;t keep your weight down--even if this means gastic bypass--or if you smoke or take drugs or don&#039;t take your meds correctly--you don&#039;t get medical care. Period.

Sure, this is non-compassionate, but by crackey you get tired of dealing with idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Melissa is also correct that there are reasons for ‘non-compliance’ that often seem quite rational and logical in the mind of the patient at the time.</i></p>
<p>Well, just because they&#8217;re &#8216;rational and logical&#8217; in the mind of the patient doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re rational and logical in the real world.</p>
<p>I have always hated that philosophy. Just because I &#8216;perceive&#8217; the sky to be purple doesn&#8217;t make it so. Just because I &#8216;think&#8217; I have reasons not to take my meds doesn&#8217;t mean those reasons hold water, or that other people should go along with said reasons.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought about writing a story (and if we ever go to a single-payer system, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if this actually happens) wherein if you don&#8217;t have a yearly physical and other recommended screening tests, and if you don&#8217;t keep your weight down&#8211;even if this means gastic bypass&#8211;or if you smoke or take drugs or don&#8217;t take your meds correctly&#8211;you don&#8217;t get medical care. Period.</p>
<p>Sure, this is non-compassionate, but by crackey you get tired of dealing with idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This doctor thinks of nurses as &#039;well-educated servants&#039;... This says all I really need to know about this &#039;cerebral&#039; and &#039;well-travelled&#039; buffoon.

I agree with ConcernedMother that the tone of all too many medical blogs is simply dripping with condescension for those in need of medical care.

Melissa is also correct that there are reasons for &#039;non-compliance&#039; that often seem quite rational and logical in the mind of the patient at the time.

I don&#039;t think &#039;enabling&#039; is the main problem in this country today. Rather it is the unchecked arrogance of some (not all) Medical Doctors who have an opinion of themselves preposterously inflated far beyond their actual value to suffering patients.

Sorry. Just my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doctor thinks of nurses as &#8216;well-educated servants&#8217;&#8230; This says all I really need to know about this &#8216;cerebral&#8217; and &#8216;well-travelled&#8217; buffoon.</p>
<p>I agree with ConcernedMother that the tone of all too many medical blogs is simply dripping with condescension for those in need of medical care.</p>
<p>Melissa is also correct that there are reasons for &#8216;non-compliance&#8217; that often seem quite rational and logical in the mind of the patient at the time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8216;enabling&#8217; is the main problem in this country today. Rather it is the unchecked arrogance of some (not all) Medical Doctors who have an opinion of themselves preposterously inflated far beyond their actual value to suffering patients.</p>
<p>Sorry. Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Mother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Mother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happened to the part about people needing dialysis because they didn’t take care of themselves? Did you edit it out? My son was born with renal failure, hydronephrosis, Grade 5 bi-lateral reflux.  He’s double implanted so he’s refluxing on 4 ureters.  One kidney has been destroyed since birth, the other is ½ ruined.  I did nothing and neither did he.  So, he doesn’t deserve dialysis?  This is due to some sort of medical non-compliance in the eyes of your cerebral friend on one of his mission trips?  I hope he has as much compassion for his fellow American as he has for his mission trippers.

I get real concerned when I read these medical blogs.  They resonate with distain and disgust for the majority of the patients served.  Most of the bloggers see a drug seeker or a PITA around every corner.  If you are unhappy in your profession, then leave.  There will always be people who work the system.

If we want to fix health care, we need some sort of single payer system.  Have you ever looked at the websites of various insurance companies and HMOs?  They have more executives than I care to see.  If we had one system for payment, everyone would know what was covered and how much. There would be no need for Vice Presidents of: Sales, Marketing, Communications, Medical Operations (why does an insurance company need this? Oh yes, I forgot medical decisions re no longer between patient and doctor), Pharmacological Operations, Business Retention, etc.  That is a boatload of savings right there.

As for the rest of the so-called problems with switching to a single payer system?  We already have waiting lists and no choice.  If your doctor doesn’t participate, you need a different one or pay cash.  If your Primary Care Physician (PCP) refuses to refer you, you pay cash.  The insurance companies and HMOs say that they are not stopping you, they just won’t pay for it.  In most cases, that is the same thing.  Hedis, JCAHO, all designed to make more work, cost more money without contributing a damn thing.

As a caregiver for 5 disabled people, I am in and out of hospitals all the time.  Even top 100 hospitals.  Behind the hand rubbed cherry lobby with water fountains, the plasma TVs and saltwater fish tanks in the waiting rooms, lies filth.  It’s third world as you roam the corridors behind the scenes.  One when my son was hospitalized, there was vomit in the room.  No one could tell how long it had been there, all dried up.  Someone had vomited on the TV channels listing card and then it was stuck back between the phone and the monitor on the table.  Dried blood on the gurney, not ours, since we hadn’t been stuck yet.  Once we got a room with carpet in it.  Who puts carpet in a patient’s room?

Thanks for the rant.  But, I am even more wary of my MDs now.  I am very concerned that the blogging is reflective on the industry as a whole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the part about people needing dialysis because they didn’t take care of themselves? Did you edit it out? My son was born with renal failure, hydronephrosis, Grade 5 bi-lateral reflux.  He’s double implanted so he’s refluxing on 4 ureters.  One kidney has been destroyed since birth, the other is ½ ruined.  I did nothing and neither did he.  So, he doesn’t deserve dialysis?  This is due to some sort of medical non-compliance in the eyes of your cerebral friend on one of his mission trips?  I hope he has as much compassion for his fellow American as he has for his mission trippers.</p>
<p>I get real concerned when I read these medical blogs.  They resonate with distain and disgust for the majority of the patients served.  Most of the bloggers see a drug seeker or a PITA around every corner.  If you are unhappy in your profession, then leave.  There will always be people who work the system.</p>
<p>If we want to fix health care, we need some sort of single payer system.  Have you ever looked at the websites of various insurance companies and HMOs?  They have more executives than I care to see.  If we had one system for payment, everyone would know what was covered and how much. There would be no need for Vice Presidents of: Sales, Marketing, Communications, Medical Operations (why does an insurance company need this? Oh yes, I forgot medical decisions re no longer between patient and doctor), Pharmacological Operations, Business Retention, etc.  That is a boatload of savings right there.</p>
<p>As for the rest of the so-called problems with switching to a single payer system?  We already have waiting lists and no choice.  If your doctor doesn’t participate, you need a different one or pay cash.  If your Primary Care Physician (PCP) refuses to refer you, you pay cash.  The insurance companies and HMOs say that they are not stopping you, they just won’t pay for it.  In most cases, that is the same thing.  Hedis, JCAHO, all designed to make more work, cost more money without contributing a damn thing.</p>
<p>As a caregiver for 5 disabled people, I am in and out of hospitals all the time.  Even top 100 hospitals.  Behind the hand rubbed cherry lobby with water fountains, the plasma TVs and saltwater fish tanks in the waiting rooms, lies filth.  It’s third world as you roam the corridors behind the scenes.  One when my son was hospitalized, there was vomit in the room.  No one could tell how long it had been there, all dried up.  Someone had vomited on the TV channels listing card and then it was stuck back between the phone and the monitor on the table.  Dried blood on the gurney, not ours, since we hadn’t been stuck yet.  Once we got a room with carpet in it.  Who puts carpet in a patient’s room?</p>
<p>Thanks for the rant.  But, I am even more wary of my MDs now.  I am very concerned that the blogging is reflective on the industry as a whole.</p>
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