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		<title>By: EEJ</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator>EEJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just in from Techdirt:

We&#039;ve known for a while that mobile phone jammers were popular with places like hotels even though they were illegal. And while a US firm selling the devices is involved in a lawsuit claiming that banning the devices is unconstitutional, they&#039;re still very much barred. Yet, as the NY Times reports this weekend, overseas sellers of the devices (including personal ones that you can keep in your pocket) are seeing growing demand from US users, including random people who just like to mess with mobile phone chatters around them. Of course, for those of you tempted to annoy those who normally annoy you with their chatter, at least recognize that the fine for getting caught using these devices STARTS at $11,000 (in the US).

via www.techdirt.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in from Techdirt:</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve known for a while that mobile phone jammers were popular with places like hotels even though they were illegal. And while a US firm selling the devices is involved in a lawsuit claiming that banning the devices is unconstitutional, they&#8217;re still very much barred. Yet, as the NY Times reports this weekend, overseas sellers of the devices (including personal ones that you can keep in your pocket) are seeing growing demand from US users, including random people who just like to mess with mobile phone chatters around them. Of course, for those of you tempted to annoy those who normally annoy you with their chatter, at least recognize that the fine for getting caught using these devices STARTS at $11,000 (in the US).</p>
<p>via <a href="http://www.techdirt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.techdirt.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: nocturnal rn</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>nocturnal rn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh my! I loved that clip. I so wish I could do that sometimes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my! I loved that clip. I so wish I could do that sometimes!</p>
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		<title>By: DevilDoc</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-776</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 05:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a young woman the other day who answered her cell phone and had a full conversation while I was doing a pelvic exam.  She just nodded at me when I finished, as she was too busy setting up her schedule for the evening to discuss the findings.  I gave her ample time to finish her conversation before I went back into the room.  She&#039;d started bugging the nurses to leave as soon as she got off the phone.  It seems she had to leave right away to meet one of her friends.  Her &quot;emergency&quot; pelvic pain she&#039;d had for 6 months seemed to disappear once she had a party to attend.  She did ask for some Percocet &quot;to get through the weekend&quot;.  Umm...no.  People never cease to amaze me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a young woman the other day who answered her cell phone and had a full conversation while I was doing a pelvic exam.  She just nodded at me when I finished, as she was too busy setting up her schedule for the evening to discuss the findings.  I gave her ample time to finish her conversation before I went back into the room.  She&#8217;d started bugging the nurses to leave as soon as she got off the phone.  It seems she had to leave right away to meet one of her friends.  Her &#8220;emergency&#8221; pelvic pain she&#8217;d had for 6 months seemed to disappear once she had a party to attend.  She did ask for some Percocet &#8220;to get through the weekend&#8221;.  Umm&#8230;no.  People never cease to amaze me.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteCoat</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-770</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiteCoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bwwwaaaaahahahahahahaha. I&#039;m videotaping my escapades with this little beauty. Do they check for stuff like this in customs?
If you&#039;re from the FCC and reading this, I&#039;m just kidding. Really.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bwwwaaaaahahahahahahaha. I&#8217;m videotaping my escapades with this little beauty. Do they check for stuff like this in customs?<br />
If you&#8217;re from the FCC and reading this, I&#8217;m just kidding. Really.</p>
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		<title>By: Send513</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-775</link>
		<dc:creator>Send513</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin

a device to turn off cell phones, too bad its not legal :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html?_r=1&#038;hp&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html?_r=1&#038;hp&#038;oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>a device to turn off cell phones, too bad its not legal <img src='http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: morethananelectrician</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator>morethananelectrician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We will turn off our phones and not answer them when we actually get to be seen for our 9:30 am appointment before 11 am.   We have jobs and responsibilities and in my 10 appointments within the medical community, I have never been seen any earlier than one hour AFTER my scheduled appointment...hard to tell someone when you&#039;ll be done if you never know when you are going to be seen.   Then we don&#039;t actually get to see the physician, oh...he peaks in head in the door so he wont be committing fraud when the paperwork is filled out to the insurance provider that he actually &quot;saw&quot; the patient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will turn off our phones and not answer them when we actually get to be seen for our 9:30 am appointment before 11 am.   We have jobs and responsibilities and in my 10 appointments within the medical community, I have never been seen any earlier than one hour AFTER my scheduled appointment&#8230;hard to tell someone when you&#8217;ll be done if you never know when you are going to be seen.   Then we don&#8217;t actually get to see the physician, oh&#8230;he peaks in head in the door so he wont be committing fraud when the paperwork is filled out to the insurance provider that he actually &#8220;saw&#8221; the patient.</p>
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		<title>By: LF</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-773</link>
		<dc:creator>LF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a preface, I do agree -- cell phone does need to be curbed in many situations -- particularly in medicine.

One of my dearest friends is the daughter of a very senior firefighter/paramedic in a major US city... she called him one day to complain about a teacher, and her dad actually answered the phone while he was performing CPR on a woman. At some point in time, the woman was conscious and asked who he was talking to -- he told her it was his daughter (around the same time that he said &quot;sweetie, I&#039;m trying to do CPR, can I call you back later??&quot;) and my friend heard the (nearly-dead) woman say &quot;She sounds so sweet!&quot;

Really and truly, I couldn&#039;t make that up...

I, do, however, have to admit my own transgression (but, it *was* the first indicator that my mom was going to survive a possibly fatal head injury)

Yes, I saw the signs as I walked into the ER/Trauma Dept that my mom had been life-flighted to (Ford Explorer rollover -- if you own one, sell it. I know you don&#039;t think you can afford it, but I promise you that selling it is cheaper than the medical bills you will incur when it decides to do somersaults down the interstate) Yes, I understand that signs are posted for a reason (FDA motivated or not). Believe it or not, I do have a significant amount of respect for medical personnel (my family tree includes a doctor or two -- one might be my dad).

Anyway, by the time I made it to my mom, I had her cell phone and my own in my possession and I was trying to keep track of my dad (he couldn&#039;t go out of town with us that weekend b/c he was on call, so he was driving to meet us at the hospital she was flown to) Fast forward through a lot of gory (but really rather fascinating -- and ultimately miraculous) diagnosis and treatment... Grandma (Mom&#039;s mom) found out about the wreck. She called my mom&#039;s phone first, and I didn&#039;t answer. Then she called my phone, and I knew she was really worried. After a quick, nonverbal communication with my dad and then the nurse in the room, I moved over to the corner and answered. Grandma was very clear and concise -- she wanted to know if my mom was a) alive, b) going to survive and c) if she was going to survive, whether she&#039;d know her own name and be able to walk. My mother -- in a drug induced stupor (but still beautifully rebellious, as expected for one raised in the Deep South) heard her Mom through the cell phone on the other side of a 12x12 trauma room and managed a &quot;oh lord, please, not her!&quot;

At that point, despite significant head trauma, the doctors (2 of them entered during this phone call) were positive she was going to make a full recovery.  And, for the most part, she has.

In conclusion... while all too often abused, cell phones in the ED aren&#039;t ALWAYS a bad thing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a preface, I do agree &#8212; cell phone does need to be curbed in many situations &#8212; particularly in medicine.</p>
<p>One of my dearest friends is the daughter of a very senior firefighter/paramedic in a major US city&#8230; she called him one day to complain about a teacher, and her dad actually answered the phone while he was performing CPR on a woman. At some point in time, the woman was conscious and asked who he was talking to &#8212; he told her it was his daughter (around the same time that he said &#8220;sweetie, I&#8217;m trying to do CPR, can I call you back later??&#8221;) and my friend heard the (nearly-dead) woman say &#8220;She sounds so sweet!&#8221;</p>
<p>Really and truly, I couldn&#8217;t make that up&#8230;</p>
<p>I, do, however, have to admit my own transgression (but, it *was* the first indicator that my mom was going to survive a possibly fatal head injury)</p>
<p>Yes, I saw the signs as I walked into the ER/Trauma Dept that my mom had been life-flighted to (Ford Explorer rollover &#8212; if you own one, sell it. I know you don&#8217;t think you can afford it, but I promise you that selling it is cheaper than the medical bills you will incur when it decides to do somersaults down the interstate) Yes, I understand that signs are posted for a reason (FDA motivated or not). Believe it or not, I do have a significant amount of respect for medical personnel (my family tree includes a doctor or two &#8212; one might be my dad).</p>
<p>Anyway, by the time I made it to my mom, I had her cell phone and my own in my possession and I was trying to keep track of my dad (he couldn&#8217;t go out of town with us that weekend b/c he was on call, so he was driving to meet us at the hospital she was flown to) Fast forward through a lot of gory (but really rather fascinating &#8212; and ultimately miraculous) diagnosis and treatment&#8230; Grandma (Mom&#8217;s mom) found out about the wreck. She called my mom&#8217;s phone first, and I didn&#8217;t answer. Then she called my phone, and I knew she was really worried. After a quick, nonverbal communication with my dad and then the nurse in the room, I moved over to the corner and answered. Grandma was very clear and concise &#8212; she wanted to know if my mom was a) alive, b) going to survive and c) if she was going to survive, whether she&#8217;d know her own name and be able to walk. My mother &#8212; in a drug induced stupor (but still beautifully rebellious, as expected for one raised in the Deep South) heard her Mom through the cell phone on the other side of a 12&#215;12 trauma room and managed a &#8220;oh lord, please, not her!&#8221;</p>
<p>At that point, despite significant head trauma, the doctors (2 of them entered during this phone call) were positive she was going to make a full recovery.  And, for the most part, she has.</p>
<p>In conclusion&#8230; while all too often abused, cell phones in the ED aren&#8217;t ALWAYS a bad thing!</p>
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		<title>By: Ten out of Ten</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-772</link>
		<dc:creator>Ten out of Ten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a similar experience the other day -- I walked into a room and a young woman was talking on her cell phone.  I stared her down for maybe five seconds or so and then said &quot;ok I&#039;ll be back in a little while.&quot;

I stayed busy for the next hour or so and then went back and she was gone.  I got real excited, peaked in the bathroom, and discovered she wasn&#039;t there either.  It was like Christmas morning.

General rule of thumb -- if you&#039;re well enough to chat away on the cell phone your probably going to be ok.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar experience the other day &#8212; I walked into a room and a young woman was talking on her cell phone.  I stared her down for maybe five seconds or so and then said &#8220;ok I&#8217;ll be back in a little while.&#8221;</p>
<p>I stayed busy for the next hour or so and then went back and she was gone.  I got real excited, peaked in the bathroom, and discovered she wasn&#8217;t there either.  It was like Christmas morning.</p>
<p>General rule of thumb &#8212; if you&#8217;re well enough to chat away on the cell phone your probably going to be ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Griffin3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griffin3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hrmm ... here&#039;s one for 130GBP, which is, I dunno $200 or so?  Works up to 30 meters, no promises, I see ... And is not particularly legal here in the states.  But, wouldn&#039;t the confused look be worth it?

&lt;code&gt;--&gt; http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/rx9000.htm (many other similar gadgets on that site.)&lt;/code&gt;

I also found instructions for a do-it-yourself jammer, big as a pack of cigarettes, if you are more mechanically inclined than electrocutionally inclined ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrmm &#8230; here&#8217;s one for 130GBP, which is, I dunno $200 or so?  Works up to 30 meters, no promises, I see &#8230; And is not particularly legal here in the states.  But, wouldn&#8217;t the confused look be worth it?</p>
<p><code>--&gt; <a href="http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/rx9000.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/rx9000.htm</a> (many other similar gadgets on that site.)</code></p>
<p>I also found instructions for a do-it-yourself jammer, big as a pack of cigarettes, if you are more mechanically inclined than electrocutionally inclined &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nurse K</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2007/11/cell-phones-in-the-ed/#comment-769</link>
		<dc:creator>Nurse K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Worst family ever today in one of my rooms.  I could fill 2 pages with all the rudeness, inappropriateness, and mistreatment of me and the rest of the staff.  They did the &quot;play by play&quot; on the cell phone, only with the worse addendum of, &quot;And THE NURSE is here and SHE WON&#039;T GIVE HIM a FLU SHOT (nevermind the numerous explanations of how that could be done as an inpatient etc) and SHE WON&#039;T GIVE HIM his home medications (nevermind that his bp was 60/40 and his home meds were bp meds, diuretics, and coumadin), so I&#039;m going to have to hang up with you and talk to HIS CARDIOLOGIST to get him in here to DEMAND he RECEIVE his HOME MEDICATIONS right now. All she said is an INTERNIST was coming, and OBVIOUSLY an internist can&#039;t handle this case but SHE DOESN&#039;T SEEM TO CARE.&quot;

I told someone that I was &quot;about to decompensate&quot;.  Later on, I went in the back room to hide and eat my lunch and not more than 2 seconds into microwaving my food, the aide and the secretary came back and said they were throwing a fit because I had not told them how much insulin I gave and the patient&#039;s lunch tray was what he ordered for diet, but he didn&#039;t like WHITE BREAD and HOW CAN YOU GIVE SOMEONE WHITE BREAD IN A HOSPITAL AND HE NEEDS WHEAT BREAD AND RE-CHECK HIS BLOOD SUGAR RIGHT NOW.

Meanwhile, the patient was alert and oriented and wasn&#039;t complaining about his food at all, etc.

It was a study in how to piss people off in a hospital, a farce if you will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst family ever today in one of my rooms.  I could fill 2 pages with all the rudeness, inappropriateness, and mistreatment of me and the rest of the staff.  They did the &#8220;play by play&#8221; on the cell phone, only with the worse addendum of, &#8220;And THE NURSE is here and SHE WON&#8217;T GIVE HIM a FLU SHOT (nevermind the numerous explanations of how that could be done as an inpatient etc) and SHE WON&#8217;T GIVE HIM his home medications (nevermind that his bp was 60/40 and his home meds were bp meds, diuretics, and coumadin), so I&#8217;m going to have to hang up with you and talk to HIS CARDIOLOGIST to get him in here to DEMAND he RECEIVE his HOME MEDICATIONS right now. All she said is an INTERNIST was coming, and OBVIOUSLY an internist can&#8217;t handle this case but SHE DOESN&#8217;T SEEM TO CARE.&#8221;</p>
<p>I told someone that I was &#8220;about to decompensate&#8221;.  Later on, I went in the back room to hide and eat my lunch and not more than 2 seconds into microwaving my food, the aide and the secretary came back and said they were throwing a fit because I had not told them how much insulin I gave and the patient&#8217;s lunch tray was what he ordered for diet, but he didn&#8217;t like WHITE BREAD and HOW CAN YOU GIVE SOMEONE WHITE BREAD IN A HOSPITAL AND HE NEEDS WHEAT BREAD AND RE-CHECK HIS BLOOD SUGAR RIGHT NOW.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the patient was alert and oriented and wasn&#8217;t complaining about his food at all, etc.</p>
<p>It was a study in how to piss people off in a hospital, a farce if you will.</p>
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