Comments on: Be Careful What You Listen For …

By: mottsapplesauce

mottsapplesauce — Sun, 18 May 2008 15:35:46 +0000

Catpaw,
I agree with SeaSpray. The kidney stone I had in 2005, as my urologist put it, was the “Rock of Gibraltar”. He showed me the X-ray because they couldn’t get over the size, which was larger than a golf ball. They gave me a local when the radiologist had to cut my back to place the nephrostomy tube. In fact, they gave me two locals. I didn’t feel pain, but I felt him cutting. He literally screamed at me not to move, but the ‘twitching’ that was occuring during the placement was total reflex. I wanted to grab his nuts & twist them off but he was out of reach. Needless to say, that radiologist never touched me again. I never said a word, but apparently one of the staff told my surgeon what happened. All of that could’ve been avoided with a little Versed (sp?).

By: ?

Sat, 17 May 2008 16:13:30 +0000

At first I didn’t believe this thing about the patient listening in like it was a party line. Could someone really be so dumb as to put a phone with access to the same lines used for hospital business? To me that’s more remarkable than the rest of the story.

As far as the 27 previous visits go, that doesn’t even approach the frequency of some of the patients I see regularly. We’ve got customers who’s charts number close to a hundred per year.

We have multi-line phones on the wall in the trauma rooms so that the docs can contact consultants/other hospitals while still in the rooms. Never believed that someone would even think about picking up the phone to listen to the conversation until this woman proved me/us wrong.

By: jeffsher63

jeffsher63 — Sat, 17 May 2008 13:45:04 +0000

That’s one way to get rid of her

By: SeaSpray

SeaSpray — Sat, 17 May 2008 04:07:32 +0000

Wow Catpaw! They must’ve known they would pass because i don’t think mine ever would because my ureter is more narrow than normal. And I ended up in the OR and the pain was worse then labor contractions with back pain and also had the pressure of labor. Tylenol #3 would never do.

The ED gives you morphine or dilauded where I went but then I get really sick. God forbid there should ever be another but if so I know I can tolerate demerol. I think it is inhumane to not have narcotics for that but there must be degrees of pain according to stone size. ?? The hospital I worked in gives Demerol in conjunction with …i want to say Toradol but I could be wrong about that. They do give the Demerol with another drug though.

Post stent removal (I had 6 removed that caused me kidney spasms) the after pain is so horrendous that they give you Percocet to take when you are home. Actually…my last stent removal the kidney pain wasn’t bad…just crampy/achy which was a welcome change.

That is all behind me now..Thank God!

I really feel for you Catpaw.

By: catpaw

catpaw — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:23:07 +0000

Vicodin for kidney stones? Holy Crap! I’m moving to the US. I’ve had kidney stones twice and the doctors were very helpful and sympathetic – don’t get me wrong, honestly they were. BUT i was told “They will pass, you will wish you were dead, but you won’t die” and given a prescription for Tylenol 3. And guess what? They were right.
Vicodin? Isn’t that a bit of over kill?

By: Teresa

Teresa — Fri, 16 May 2008 16:10:20 +0000

Forget Deborah Peel, Patient Privacy Rights Advocate. What about doctor privacy rights? Do doctors not have a right to assume a private communication?

By: Rogue Medic

Rogue Medic — Fri, 16 May 2008 15:39:29 +0000

I thought party lines were mostly eliminated in the 60s and 70s.

Imagine if Dr. Deborah Peel found out about this. A patient eavesdropping on a phone call about her abuse of the system. How horrifying that must be. We should put an end to physician to physician communication.

By: Osler

Osler — Fri, 16 May 2008 15:30:39 +0000

Think about this women the next time you are complaining about a rise in you insurance premium or a bill from the ED. We all pay for those that abuse the health care system and waste its resources. More and more people are complaining about their bills to me but ya know of that $250 I still only get like 30 bucks and the rest goes to swelling overhead and to subsidize those that abuse the system or don’t pay. a lot of people cannot pay but abusers make the situation even worse.

By: SeaSpray

SeaSpray — Fri, 16 May 2008 14:08:29 +0000

I actually told that story to our boys to make a point.

I forgot about an incident where I was treated horribly by a doctor in a private practice. It was the most humiliating experience, but I was so ill and in so much pain and I wouldn’t have spoken up back then anyway. When I told the ED staff I worked with …they were appalled and the ED doc said if he was going to with hold treatment then he is surprised he didn’t call an ambulance. He was my doc 17 years earlier and I just happened to go into that office because it was the 1st available building. I was on the road and would have stopped anywhere there were humans and a bathroom. We had a good rapport too so I was shocked at how he treated me. Even his nurse was hesitant and surprised at his actions.

Anyway…being on the wrongful end of that from someone who has taken an oath to help people really hurt, added to how bad I was already feeling and prolonged my suffering unnecessarily.

I wish I had gone back to see him after I was better just to kindly say I didn’t appreciate it but I was afraid to and I just wanted to forget about it. I forgot about posting this story.

By: ArkieRN

ArkieRN — Fri, 16 May 2008 08:10:54 +0000

I’m sorry if she does happen to have pain on some of her future visits that won’t be managed. But, seriously, does no one teach the story of THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF anymore? Actions have consequences and people tend to want to conveniently forget that.