Comments on: Death By “Unvaccination”

By: Brent

Brent — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:22:48 +0000

“The anti-vaxer needs to be held responsible.”

For what? Living their lives? Being part of society? Making up their own mind about how to best live their life?

“Why should the rights of the anit-vaxer be anymore important than the parent who wants to vaccinate, but is waiting for the opportunity.”

By rights, do you mean something like liberty (from “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”)? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberty

By: Brent

Brent — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:14:41 +0000

“What if my child dies because she is exposed to an unvaccinated child?”

First, this would have to be proven. From what I understand, this is very difficult, if not impossible.

Second, your child wouldn’t die due to mere exposure itself. He/she MAY die from any complications that MAY result from contracting it.

“One of my kids has an IgA deficiency and she just got over a mild case of varicella despite having received the vaccine – she can’t mount an immune response.”

So, the very vaccine that implied immunity failed to deliver this immunity. How is this not a case of a product not delivering as expected?

By: Brent

Brent — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:07:06 +0000

“Sure these parents are idiots…”

While this might make you feel better, for say, 12 seconds, it tends to alienate the very audience of minds you wish to change.

“…more constructive for us to try to understand their mindset…”

Agreed. I know several of them who I’d describe as both over-protective and distrustful of various organizations (and with very good reason).

By: Brent

Brent — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:00:07 +0000

“…almost homicidal with rage”

With all due respect, this is scary.

“…most of the parents of these children were vaccinated with the exact same vaccines that they are decrying right now, and those evil vaccines allowed them to grow up healthy and happy.”

Exactly the same? Same ingredients? Really? This just doesn’t seem likely.

Also, where’s the evidence substantiating that is was a specific vaccine(s) that enabled the “…happy and happy”? Is it not possible that this could have occurred without those?

By: Brent

Brent — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:51:13 +0000

“Should parents who fail to take steps to prevent a largely preventable illness be held accountable if their children suffer a bad outcome?”

If you mean by some government agency or through some law, no. That’s because that’s not the role of government and it never has been in the US. Not to nitpick terminology, but the “largely preventable” descriptor sounds like a real slippery slope. We should be very careful with that.

By: karen

karen — Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:41:35 +0000

I think any parent(who opts out for whatever reason to vaccinate their child) whose infectious child infects another child who may be too young to be vaccinated, or has a documented reason for not being vaccinated (medical, immune copormised)and would have been vaccinated, gets infected, the parent should take legal action against the anti-vaxer. The anti-vaxer needs to be held responsible. In the case of the infants in teh hospital in SanDiego in 2008, who wer infected by the anti-vaxer’s kid, who knew there child had measles, those parents had huge medical bills, and a harmed child. Why should the rights of the anit-vaxer be anymore important than the parent who wants to vaccinate, but is waiting for the opportunity. Some parents use the exemption laws becasue they are lazy not becasue they really have convicitons, it is just a way to avoid taking responsibility. maybe law suits would weed these folks out, and all would be held culpable for harm done to children and others.

By: Do No Harm

Do No Harm — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:17:28 +0000

I agree that the graph shows that death rates declined prior to mass vaccination. However, you only partially interpreted the data. The data you show reveal a decrease in death from 1,000 children per million to almost zero following mass vaccination. That means that 1,000 less children will die from these diseases. Are you suggesting that it would be better not to vaccinate and to instead have those 1,000 kids die every year?

By: Do No Harm

Do No Harm — Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:12:31 +0000

Tm, pharmaceutical companies make very little profit on vaccines. They would most likely stop producing them were it not mandated by the federal government. To what side effects of vaccination are you referring? The side effects of *not* vaccinating include death from epiglottitis, death from the flu, and paralysis and death from polio. In fact, if your child is not vaccinated, you are putting the health of all of the children with whom your child interacts in danger. There are children who cannot receive mandatory vaccinations because their immune systems do not function properly. If one of those children dies from a vaccine-preventable disease carried by your child (I personally know of at least one person who has) you should be charged with negligent homicide.

By: Pk

Pk — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:16:12 +0000

Stephanie, if you lived, like I do, with the daily fall out from a lack of vaccine, watching what these childhood diseases could do to a body, you’d think far differently.
Some day my husband will die from the complications of polio he had as a child .. his muscles were destroyed, he looks like a hallocaust victim (note, I said victim, not survivor) because he’d have been 6’4 had he not had poliom, that frame is now crooked and twisted into a 5’4” on one foot and 5’0” on the other …and weighs all of 98 lbs.
Some day, his lungs may fail, or an organ rupture because the scoliosis twists him so badly … his spinal cord is being pushed out of his neck.

There is NO way to describe the ravages of polio …
A cousin is deaf because of the measles. Another cousin was unable to have children because of mumps.
While many of my generation did recieve vaccines,it was the early stages and many suffered dramatically … it is not something todays’ society is familiar with …

By: Stephanie

Stephanie — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:06:42 +0000

If you had done research you would see that there is evidence supporting both sides. I have done the research and I am not going to vaccinate my child. I have seen the difference in my child and in other children in my family. And my daughter is brighter, *cough*HEALTHIER*cough*. My daughter has not been sick one time since she has been born! The other children in my family have been….many times. Facts show that the decrease of these diseases had dramatically dropped BEFORE vaccines due to better hygiene (http://www.whale.to/v/obosawin1_files/table1.gif) !!! !!!!!

“Polio Vaccine that was given to over 98 million people in the 50s and 60s, was contaminated with the Simian (monkey) Virus # 40. This SV40 destroys all of the cells defenses against cancer”
- Spice Williams-Crosby, M.S.NU, MFS, CFT