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	<title>Comments on: The Trial of a WhiteCoat &#8211; Part 4</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-9687</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually would call you neither. I don&#039;t even know you.  If being sued for something that will be paid for by someone else even in the unlikely event you lose is your worst nightmare then that&#039;s a pretty fine life you got there and you should enjoy it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually would call you neither. I don&#8217;t even know you.  If being sued for something that will be paid for by someone else even in the unlikely event you lose is your worst nightmare then that&#8217;s a pretty fine life you got there and you should enjoy it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-9681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Matt, go ahead and call all of us doctors arrogant and rich. I am neither. I&#039;m in debt for a house, student loans, my car and my husband&#039;s truck, etc. I go to work every day trying to do my best, knowing I&#039;m not perfect, and hoping I won&#039;t get sued for being human. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m any better than anyone else. I work in the emergency department where I have to see anyone who shows up including those nobody else wants to see. This guy made THE RIGHT DIAGNOSIS and he still gets his ass handed to him. This is a physician&#039;s worst nightmare. I feel bad for this person and hope I never end up in a similar situation. People who look through the 20-20 retrospectoscope have no clue what we go through every day. Situations like this make us feel like the patient and family are the enemy. Do you really need to ask why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Matt, go ahead and call all of us doctors arrogant and rich. I am neither. I&#8217;m in debt for a house, student loans, my car and my husband&#8217;s truck, etc. I go to work every day trying to do my best, knowing I&#8217;m not perfect, and hoping I won&#8217;t get sued for being human. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m any better than anyone else. I work in the emergency department where I have to see anyone who shows up including those nobody else wants to see. This guy made THE RIGHT DIAGNOSIS and he still gets his ass handed to him. This is a physician&#8217;s worst nightmare. I feel bad for this person and hope I never end up in a similar situation. People who look through the 20-20 retrospectoscope have no clue what we go through every day. Situations like this make us feel like the patient and family are the enemy. Do you really need to ask why?</p>
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		<title>By: Teendoc</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-9153</link>
		<dc:creator>Teendoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very similar to my deposition as well...except that I had been prepped to reach out and shake the plaintiff lawyer&#039;s hand. The witness prep person indicated that depositions were significantly shorter if the deposed moved forward and put out his/her hand for plaintiff&#039;s counsel to shake. It&#039;s supposed to be an I&#039;m not afraid of you gesture.

That notwithstanding, my deposition was videotaped, and plantiff&#039;s counsel could have won an Oscar for theatrics. It was such an unpleasant experience. If not for the clear understanding among everyone involved and everyone questioned about this case (except the family and its attorney, of course), including the medical examiner, who all agreed that the case was an utter tragedy but nothing short of being psychic could have changed the outcome, I would have been much more nervous than I was. I stayed so calm and open that I think he kept trying to rattle me and get me to lose it on video. What he captured instead was my eyes opening wide every time he went off the chain in the deposition, and there were many of those times. 

And yes, he strutted in like a peacock and acted like the soulless ghoul he was. I wish I could console myself and say that he was doing it for the family, but since he chose to throw the family under the bus during the process, I know that it was, as I suspected, just about the money.

It is very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very similar to my deposition as well&#8230;except that I had been prepped to reach out and shake the plaintiff lawyer&#8217;s hand. The witness prep person indicated that depositions were significantly shorter if the deposed moved forward and put out his/her hand for plaintiff&#8217;s counsel to shake. It&#8217;s supposed to be an I&#8217;m not afraid of you gesture.</p>
<p>That notwithstanding, my deposition was videotaped, and plantiff&#8217;s counsel could have won an Oscar for theatrics. It was such an unpleasant experience. If not for the clear understanding among everyone involved and everyone questioned about this case (except the family and its attorney, of course), including the medical examiner, who all agreed that the case was an utter tragedy but nothing short of being psychic could have changed the outcome, I would have been much more nervous than I was. I stayed so calm and open that I think he kept trying to rattle me and get me to lose it on video. What he captured instead was my eyes opening wide every time he went off the chain in the deposition, and there were many of those times. </p>
<p>And yes, he strutted in like a peacock and acted like the soulless ghoul he was. I wish I could console myself and say that he was doing it for the family, but since he chose to throw the family under the bus during the process, I know that it was, as I suspected, just about the money.</p>
<p>It is very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: PookieMD</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-9044</link>
		<dc:creator>PookieMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very similar to my experience in a deposition. The lawyers are all friends, and this is just a day at the office for them. It seems wierd to us; it feels as if our entire careers, self image and livlihoods hang in the balance, and the lawyers are yucking it up!  However, I liken it to the fact that even after a code blue, or giving patients bad news we still go about our days, laugh with our colleagues, and do our work. The seemingly irrelevant questions are a way for opposing counsel to &quot;warm you up&quot;--according to my attorney--a way to get you used to answering questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very similar to my experience in a deposition. The lawyers are all friends, and this is just a day at the office for them. It seems wierd to us; it feels as if our entire careers, self image and livlihoods hang in the balance, and the lawyers are yucking it up!  However, I liken it to the fact that even after a code blue, or giving patients bad news we still go about our days, laugh with our colleagues, and do our work. The seemingly irrelevant questions are a way for opposing counsel to &#8220;warm you up&#8221;&#8211;according to my attorney&#8211;a way to get you used to answering questions.</p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpray</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-9006</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the voting.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the voting.  <img src='http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpray</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-9005</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed the post.  I was wondering why they ask about your family too.  Maybe to get a feel for you..your background -stability in life and to feel you our for how you answer. ?

I learned something new.  Didn&#039;t know men can&#039;t stand side by side.  Not anything I ever thought about.. but I will sleep better now... tonight. :)

Must be hard to keep your annoyance in check.

I just want to know one thing.... was your camera with you and did you take their picture?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the post.  I was wondering why they ask about your family too.  Maybe to get a feel for you..your background -stability in life and to feel you our for how you answer. ?</p>
<p>I learned something new.  Didn&#8217;t know men can&#8217;t stand side by side.  Not anything I ever thought about.. but I will sleep better now&#8230; tonight. <img src='http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Must be hard to keep your annoyance in check.</p>
<p>I just want to know one thing&#8230;. was your camera with you and did you take their picture?  <img src='http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-9000</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;experience and common sense being of lesser value to a jury with no medical education.&quot;

What a silly statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;experience and common sense being of lesser value to a jury with no medical education.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a silly statement.</p>
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		<title>By: PaedsRN</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-8996</link>
		<dc:creator>PaedsRN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1. You assume that defensive medicine actually reduces risk of being sued, yet there is no evidence it does.&quot;

I doubt that most docs are trying to avoid being sued when they order additional tests. The idea is that when they DO get sued, they can point to enough evidence to demonstrate that they were not negligent--experience and common sense being of lesser value to a jury with no medical education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1. You assume that defensive medicine actually reduces risk of being sued, yet there is no evidence it does.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt that most docs are trying to avoid being sued when they order additional tests. The idea is that when they DO get sued, they can point to enough evidence to demonstrate that they were not negligent&#8211;experience and common sense being of lesser value to a jury with no medical education.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-8954</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Particularly lawyers in medical malpractice, given that the physician is usually arrogant enough and it draws a nice contrast.&quot;

Rather hilarious that you are guilty of the same prejudgments that you accuse docs of having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Particularly lawyers in medical malpractice, given that the physician is usually arrogant enough and it draws a nice contrast.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rather hilarious that you are guilty of the same prejudgments that you accuse docs of having.</p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/06/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-4/#comment-8952</link>
		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your description of hospital&#039;s counsel and Vinny&#039;s quip are priceless! 

I encountered a red-faced n00b with a toddler&#039;s tantrum-y attitude, representing an insurance company at a work comp hearing. He didn&#039;t know what questions to ask, let alone the answers to those questions. The judge was not amused and showed it in his decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your description of hospital&#8217;s counsel and Vinny&#8217;s quip are priceless! </p>
<p>I encountered a red-faced n00b with a toddler&#8217;s tantrum-y attitude, representing an insurance company at a work comp hearing. He didn&#8217;t know what questions to ask, let alone the answers to those questions. The judge was not amused and showed it in his decision.</p>
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