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	<title>Comments on: Does Medical Malpractice Affect Access to Medical Care?</title>
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		<title>By: Supremacy Claus</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/07/does-medical-malpractice-affect-access-to-medical-care/#comment-10671</link>
		<dc:creator>Supremacy Claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt: Do you believe minds can be read? Future rare accidents can be foreseen? 12 strangers off the street can detect the truth using their gut feelings, after those with knowledge have been excluded? That standards of prudence are to be set by a fictional character? Why on earth fictional? To be objective, of course. Then this character is labeled, reasonable, not intelligent, average, common sensical, kind, compassionate, logical, etc. No. Reasonable. Why? Because reason refers to Jesus Christ in Scholasticism, which is the origin of the core doctrines of the law, and is lawless in our secular nation. Every self-stated goal of every law subject is in utter failure. 

Then you call me crazy? Your profession is cuckoo. 

You entered 1L as a modern intelligent person. You emerged believing in supernatural core doctrines by cult indoctrination. This was so good, you do not even know it took place. You just ended up believing in the supernatural and pledging total allegiance to a criminal cult enterprise. And you have no idea what I am talking about, the indoctrination is that good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: Do you believe minds can be read? Future rare accidents can be foreseen? 12 strangers off the street can detect the truth using their gut feelings, after those with knowledge have been excluded? That standards of prudence are to be set by a fictional character? Why on earth fictional? To be objective, of course. Then this character is labeled, reasonable, not intelligent, average, common sensical, kind, compassionate, logical, etc. No. Reasonable. Why? Because reason refers to Jesus Christ in Scholasticism, which is the origin of the core doctrines of the law, and is lawless in our secular nation. Every self-stated goal of every law subject is in utter failure. </p>
<p>Then you call me crazy? Your profession is cuckoo. </p>
<p>You entered 1L as a modern intelligent person. You emerged believing in supernatural core doctrines by cult indoctrination. This was so good, you do not even know it took place. You just ended up believing in the supernatural and pledging total allegiance to a criminal cult enterprise. And you have no idea what I am talking about, the indoctrination is that good.</p>
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		<title>By: WWWebb</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/07/does-medical-malpractice-affect-access-to-medical-care/#comment-10670</link>
		<dc:creator>WWWebb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the extra E, in there, Claus.

Old corporate trust banker muscle memory kicking in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the extra E, in there, Claus.</p>
<p>Old corporate trust banker muscle memory kicking in.</p>
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		<title>By: Supremacy Claus</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/07/does-medical-malpractice-affect-access-to-medical-care/#comment-10668</link>
		<dc:creator>Supremacy Claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W: Anytime. 

Matt refuses to even address whether he supports or opposes ending the privity obstacle to a legal malpractice claim when lawyer carelessness has damaged an adverse third party. Suing everybody is OK in his book. Suing a lawyer is forbidden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W: Anytime. </p>
<p>Matt refuses to even address whether he supports or opposes ending the privity obstacle to a legal malpractice claim when lawyer carelessness has damaged an adverse third party. Suing everybody is OK in his book. Suing a lawyer is forbidden.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/07/does-medical-malpractice-affect-access-to-medical-care/#comment-10666</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be a short battle. No beating crazy.</description>
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		<title>By: WWWebb</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/07/does-medical-malpractice-affect-access-to-medical-care/#comment-10664</link>
		<dc:creator>WWWebb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***** CAGED DEATH MATCH! *****

  MATT vs. SUPREMACY CLAUSE!

GUARANTEED FIGHT TO THE DEATH!



I&#039;ll sell tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***** CAGED DEATH MATCH! *****</p>
<p>  MATT vs. SUPREMACY CLAUSE!</p>
<p>GUARANTEED FIGHT TO THE DEATH!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll sell tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/07/does-medical-malpractice-affect-access-to-medical-care/#comment-10660</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at the rate we&#039;re going I&#039;ll never really know because I&#039;ll have to keep doing them out of fear of getting sued!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at the rate we&#8217;re going I&#8217;ll never really know because I&#8217;ll have to keep doing them out of fear of getting sued!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, I&#039;m sorry you felt &quot;harassed&quot;.  Wasn&#039;t the intent.  I was just curious as to whether the actions you claimed to have taken in response to the risk you perceived really reduced that risk.  No need to worry about answering if your feel put out by the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, I&#8217;m sorry you felt &#8220;harassed&#8221;.  Wasn&#8217;t the intent.  I was just curious as to whether the actions you claimed to have taken in response to the risk you perceived really reduced that risk.  No need to worry about answering if your feel put out by the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Supremacy Claus</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/07/does-medical-malpractice-affect-access-to-medical-care/#comment-10657</link>
		<dc:creator>Supremacy Claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The federal government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the criminal cult enterprise that is the lawyer profession. Lawyers make 99% of the policy decisions. The elected officials are figureheads. I do not differentiate between government and the lawyer profession. They control the three branches, and use the power of the gun of government to impose their oppression on the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The federal government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the criminal cult enterprise that is the lawyer profession. Lawyers make 99% of the policy decisions. The elected officials are figureheads. I do not differentiate between government and the lawyer profession. They control the three branches, and use the power of the gun of government to impose their oppression on the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt was harassing me as to whether I did the &quot;one thing&quot; proven to reduce malpractice suits - warm fuzzies for the patients.  And yes, I do.  I&#039;m told over and over again by peers, supervisors, patients, and families that my bedside manner is warm and patient despite the chaos around me.

That being said, when I&#039;m with a chronic-something or other patient listening to them talk about their pain for the last 6 years and I watch a new patient roll by, ashen, clutching the left side of his chest I&#039;m not really left with a choice as to what I do.  If I don&#039;t see that STEMI on the EKG (which I physically can&#039;t if I&#039;m in another room) I can&#039;t activate the cath lab within the proper amount of time (25 minutes from doorway is our guideline).  I fall short on JCAHO core measures, which (although the most poorly evidence-based measures I&#039;ve ever seen) have become regarded as standard of care.  This type of situation plays itself out over and over again in any given work day.  I have to balance spending time with my high-risk chief complaints soothing there feelings with resuscitating my truly SICK patients who don&#039;t so much care how warm and fuzzy I am, but are more concerned with whether they are going to make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt was harassing me as to whether I did the &#8220;one thing&#8221; proven to reduce malpractice suits &#8211; warm fuzzies for the patients.  And yes, I do.  I&#8217;m told over and over again by peers, supervisors, patients, and families that my bedside manner is warm and patient despite the chaos around me.</p>
<p>That being said, when I&#8217;m with a chronic-something or other patient listening to them talk about their pain for the last 6 years and I watch a new patient roll by, ashen, clutching the left side of his chest I&#8217;m not really left with a choice as to what I do.  If I don&#8217;t see that STEMI on the EKG (which I physically can&#8217;t if I&#8217;m in another room) I can&#8217;t activate the cath lab within the proper amount of time (25 minutes from doorway is our guideline).  I fall short on JCAHO core measures, which (although the most poorly evidence-based measures I&#8217;ve ever seen) have become regarded as standard of care.  This type of situation plays itself out over and over again in any given work day.  I have to balance spending time with my high-risk chief complaints soothing there feelings with resuscitating my truly SICK patients who don&#8217;t so much care how warm and fuzzy I am, but are more concerned with whether they are going to make it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WC, normally I would agree with you, you guys could make these promises and battle lawyers and injured patients state to state (because it&#039;s not a federal issue) to get that immunity you seek.  By the way, do you know ANY physician who has ever lost their life savings?  

But right now, with a President who has staked a lot of his credibility on what is essentially a run at single payer, and filibuster proof majorities in Congress, you guys can&#039;t afford to waste time or effort battling a well financed experienced opponent on an issue which in all reality is a minor risk and impact in your lives (yes, I know you THINK it&#039;s bigger, but I&#039;m talking facts).  I&#039;m sure demonizing lawyers seems a lot easier than taking on the behemoth of the federal government, but if you don&#039;t this is all a moot argument.

What is an undoubtedly large and serious day to day impact is the single payer threat.  Tort reform won&#039;t be an issue.  You&#039;ll long for the day when your errors were only rarely picked up on, and you got the chance to explain yourselves at trial.  Under a single payer system, the govt. will run you through some byzantine claims and review system which may even dock your pay for too many adverse outcomes, regardless of error.  Plus the patients will still have lawyers!  And that&#039;s not to mention the complete and total control they&#039;ll have over your pay, who you see, how often etc.  

If you continue to waste time on an expensive, state to state battle against lawyers and the victims of malpractice, you might as well embrace  single payer wholeheartedly, because it will pass you by before you ever get immunity, or even caps in 50 states.

You say there will be fewer and fewer doctors, but odds are that&#039;s not true.  There will always be people who want to go into medicine.  And existing docs aren&#039;t going to bail either, because mid-career they won&#039;t be able to find another job making near what they make and allowing them to maintain their standard of living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WC, normally I would agree with you, you guys could make these promises and battle lawyers and injured patients state to state (because it&#8217;s not a federal issue) to get that immunity you seek.  By the way, do you know ANY physician who has ever lost their life savings?  </p>
<p>But right now, with a President who has staked a lot of his credibility on what is essentially a run at single payer, and filibuster proof majorities in Congress, you guys can&#8217;t afford to waste time or effort battling a well financed experienced opponent on an issue which in all reality is a minor risk and impact in your lives (yes, I know you THINK it&#8217;s bigger, but I&#8217;m talking facts).  I&#8217;m sure demonizing lawyers seems a lot easier than taking on the behemoth of the federal government, but if you don&#8217;t this is all a moot argument.</p>
<p>What is an undoubtedly large and serious day to day impact is the single payer threat.  Tort reform won&#8217;t be an issue.  You&#8217;ll long for the day when your errors were only rarely picked up on, and you got the chance to explain yourselves at trial.  Under a single payer system, the govt. will run you through some byzantine claims and review system which may even dock your pay for too many adverse outcomes, regardless of error.  Plus the patients will still have lawyers!  And that&#8217;s not to mention the complete and total control they&#8217;ll have over your pay, who you see, how often etc.  </p>
<p>If you continue to waste time on an expensive, state to state battle against lawyers and the victims of malpractice, you might as well embrace  single payer wholeheartedly, because it will pass you by before you ever get immunity, or even caps in 50 states.</p>
<p>You say there will be fewer and fewer doctors, but odds are that&#8217;s not true.  There will always be people who want to go into medicine.  And existing docs aren&#8217;t going to bail either, because mid-career they won&#8217;t be able to find another job making near what they make and allowing them to maintain their standard of living.</p>
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