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	<title>Comments on: A Broken Heart</title>
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	<description>A blog from inside the emergency department</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13430</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the first patient that I had that actually &quot;died&quot; in the back of my rig.  Not dead on arrival, but actually started alive and ended up dead.  93 yo female.  We couldn&#039;t get the pacer to keep capture.  Not far enough down to start ACLS per protocol, but to far up to work as a code.  I wondered for a month if there was something I could have done different....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the first patient that I had that actually &#8220;died&#8221; in the back of my rig.  Not dead on arrival, but actually started alive and ended up dead.  93 yo female.  We couldn&#8217;t get the pacer to keep capture.  Not far enough down to start ACLS per protocol, but to far up to work as a code.  I wondered for a month if there was something I could have done different&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13170</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sending empathy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sending empathy</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13169</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. tears. i can imagine the anxiety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. tears. i can imagine the anxiety.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gold Tooth</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13161</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gold Tooth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad. Reminded me of the death of Arthur &quot;Killer&quot; Kane, of the New York Dolls. From Wikipedia: &quot;On July 13, 2004, just 22 days after the reunion concert, Kane thought he had caught the flu in London, and checked himself in to a Los Angeles emergency room, complaining of fatigue. He was quickly diagnosed with leukemia, and died within two hours.&quot; So he walked into the ED and died two hours later of cancer. Memorably covered in the film &quot;New York Doll&quot; (on IMDB at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436629/).

TGT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad. Reminded me of the death of Arthur &#8220;Killer&#8221; Kane, of the New York Dolls. From Wikipedia: &#8220;On July 13, 2004, just 22 days after the reunion concert, Kane thought he had caught the flu in London, and checked himself in to a Los Angeles emergency room, complaining of fatigue. He was quickly diagnosed with leukemia, and died within two hours.&#8221; So he walked into the ED and died two hours later of cancer. Memorably covered in the film &#8220;New York Doll&#8221; (on IMDB at <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436629/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436629/</a>).</p>
<p>TGT</p>
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		<title>By: Fyrdoc</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13155</link>
		<dc:creator>Fyrdoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful WC, I&#039;m sure Matt will be by soon to quote you as an expert who disagrees with the care you provided since you wonder &quot;what if&quot;.

But from another pit doc - there are times medicine just sucks.  This is one of those.  Sorry that happened to you man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful WC, I&#8217;m sure Matt will be by soon to quote you as an expert who disagrees with the care you provided since you wonder &#8220;what if&#8221;.</p>
<p>But from another pit doc &#8211; there are times medicine just sucks.  This is one of those.  Sorry that happened to you man.</p>
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		<title>By: wkct</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13153</link>
		<dc:creator>wkct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow! that was  some story. sad, and compelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! that was  some story. sad, and compelling.</p>
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		<title>By: dmcarls</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13145</link>
		<dc:creator>dmcarls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment reminds me of this:

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/press/2001pi4/marcus.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment reminds me of this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/press/2001pi4/marcus.html" rel="nofollow">http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/press/2001pi4/marcus.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: scalpel</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13144</link>
		<dc:creator>scalpel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re sure WC was planning on giving heparin or tPA before he even saw the ECG? Really?

Personally, I prefer to see the ECG first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re sure WC was planning on giving heparin or tPA before he even saw the ECG? Really?</p>
<p>Personally, I prefer to see the ECG first.</p>
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		<title>By: tyro</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13142</link>
		<dc:creator>tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EKG was probably being set up at the time.  Rectal exam is actually a great idea if you&#039;re planning on giving heparin or tPA, which I&#039;m sure WhiteCoat was.  All that stuff happens at the same time, monitors are not instantaneous and neither are EKGs.  

Only on the l&#039;il test with the l&#039;il boxes is &#039;the next best step&#039; a) EKG or b) rectal as if it happens one after the other.

Well written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EKG was probably being set up at the time.  Rectal exam is actually a great idea if you&#8217;re planning on giving heparin or tPA, which I&#8217;m sure WhiteCoat was.  All that stuff happens at the same time, monitors are not instantaneous and neither are EKGs.  </p>
<p>Only on the l&#8217;il test with the l&#8217;il boxes is &#8216;the next best step&#8217; a) EKG or b) rectal as if it happens one after the other.</p>
<p>Well written.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteCoat</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/a-broken-heart/#comment-13138</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiteCoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things like lines, labs, EKG, and physical exam in our shop tend to happen in parallel, not in series, but maybe that&#039;s just us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things like lines, labs, EKG, and physical exam in our shop tend to happen in parallel, not in series, but maybe that&#8217;s just us.</p>
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