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	<title>Comments on: The Trial of a WhiteCoat &#8211; Part 22</title>
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		<title>By: A. J. Campbell</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11921</link>
		<dc:creator>A. J. Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supremacy Claus, how many times have you sued judges for failing to dismiss &quot;weak&quot; cases? As you are aware, you don&#039;t have to be a lawyer to do this; you can proceed pro se. What were the outcomes of these suits? 

How many times have you &quot;orchestrated the destruction&quot; of a lawyer, as you constantly recommend so enthusiastically? Certainly filing a monthly ethics complaint would be child&#039;s play for one so legally sophisticated as you.

Can you point to a reported case where a judge has ordered or permitted the &quot;total e-discovery&quot; of a lawyer&#039;s personal life, going back to kindergarten, to uncover suspected improper motives for filing suit? How many cases can you cite that were dismissed, not due to any legal or evidentiary deficiency, but rather due solely to improper motive on the part of the attorney? 

Can you refer us to the memoirs of one of those terrorist personal attorneys who conduct all this legal destruction you admire so much? Someone who has driven all the plaintiffs&#039; lawyers out of practice for miles around and intimidated the defense lawyers into filing legally baseless motions and unethical discovery demands? Can you even name one?

Does any of this stuff actually occur outside your disordered imagination?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supremacy Claus, how many times have you sued judges for failing to dismiss &#8220;weak&#8221; cases? As you are aware, you don&#8217;t have to be a lawyer to do this; you can proceed pro se. What were the outcomes of these suits? </p>
<p>How many times have you &#8220;orchestrated the destruction&#8221; of a lawyer, as you constantly recommend so enthusiastically? Certainly filing a monthly ethics complaint would be child&#8217;s play for one so legally sophisticated as you.</p>
<p>Can you point to a reported case where a judge has ordered or permitted the &#8220;total e-discovery&#8221; of a lawyer&#8217;s personal life, going back to kindergarten, to uncover suspected improper motives for filing suit? How many cases can you cite that were dismissed, not due to any legal or evidentiary deficiency, but rather due solely to improper motive on the part of the attorney? </p>
<p>Can you refer us to the memoirs of one of those terrorist personal attorneys who conduct all this legal destruction you admire so much? Someone who has driven all the plaintiffs&#8217; lawyers out of practice for miles around and intimidated the defense lawyers into filing legally baseless motions and unethical discovery demands? Can you even name one?</p>
<p>Does any of this stuff actually occur outside your disordered imagination?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11879</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if that stat were true, which is doubtful, it&#039;s a long way from being named in a suit to a verdict in excess of policy limits. That&#039;s a pretty rare occurence even factoring in those cases where the physician is drunk or high and gets hit with punitives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if that stat were true, which is doubtful, it&#8217;s a long way from being named in a suit to a verdict in excess of policy limits. That&#8217;s a pretty rare occurence even factoring in those cases where the physician is drunk or high and gets hit with punitives.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11862</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, you should probably give up on finding raw numbers.  The insurers aren&#039;t going to release them, and it won&#039;t do you much good without a reference to income.  And the physicians aren&#039;t going to release those.  You might find some income information on the Dept. of Labor&#039;s site, but I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s broken down state by state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, you should probably give up on finding raw numbers.  The insurers aren&#8217;t going to release them, and it won&#8217;t do you much good without a reference to income.  And the physicians aren&#8217;t going to release those.  You might find some income information on the Dept. of Labor&#8217;s site, but I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s broken down state by state.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11859</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no wonder they won&#039;t do breech anymore.

where do you get these numbers?

from:
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/rising-insurance-rates-put-city-doctors-out/57934/
$190,000 for a obgyn
$42,916 for avg NYC doc
$267,000 for brain surgeon


I find a bunch of law web sites saying medmal insurnace really isn&#039;t a big deal (of course they&#039;d say this).

Other than that, nada. And of course, ask the question on a doc web site and the silence is deafening.


If they are so high and it is such an issue docs sure do a crappy job of telling people about it - other than &quot;it is awful&quot; or &quot;it is a lot&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no wonder they won&#8217;t do breech anymore.</p>
<p>where do you get these numbers?</p>
<p>from:<br />
<a href="http://www.nysun.com/new-york/rising-insurance-rates-put-city-doctors-out/57934/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nysun.com/new-york/rising-insurance-rates-put-city-doctors-out/57934/</a><br />
$190,000 for a obgyn<br />
$42,916 for avg NYC doc<br />
$267,000 for brain surgeon</p>
<p>I find a bunch of law web sites saying medmal insurnace really isn&#8217;t a big deal (of course they&#8217;d say this).</p>
<p>Other than that, nada. And of course, ask the question on a doc web site and the silence is deafening.</p>
<p>If they are so high and it is such an issue docs sure do a crappy job of telling people about it &#8211; other than &#8220;it is awful&#8221; or &#8220;it is a lot&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11850</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to who?  How many physicians pay that much in premiums?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to who?  How many physicians pay that much in premiums?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11835</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those shocked by the malpractice premiums, 40K for a doctor making 185K is not unusual.  They are specialty-based (amongst other things).  In NY State, trauma surgeons and ob/gyns pay upwards of 300K in premiums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those shocked by the malpractice premiums, 40K for a doctor making 185K is not unusual.  They are specialty-based (amongst other things).  In NY State, trauma surgeons and ob/gyns pay upwards of 300K in premiums.</p>
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		<title>By: Supremacy Claus</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11828</link>
		<dc:creator>Supremacy Claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doctors may get sued every 5 years, but they win at every stage of the claim 80% of the time. The risk of having to pay involuntarily is infinitesmally small. The risk of divorce is 50% in this feminist infested legal climate where the open hunt is on for the productive male, with a bounty placed by the lawyer for family destruction. Why does the feminist lawyer seek to destroy the American family? It competes for authority with central government, a wholly owned subsidiary of the criminal cult enterprise that is the lawyer profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctors may get sued every 5 years, but they win at every stage of the claim 80% of the time. The risk of having to pay involuntarily is infinitesmally small. The risk of divorce is 50% in this feminist infested legal climate where the open hunt is on for the productive male, with a bounty placed by the lawyer for family destruction. Why does the feminist lawyer seek to destroy the American family? It competes for authority with central government, a wholly owned subsidiary of the criminal cult enterprise that is the lawyer profession.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11819</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam you give me more credit than I deserve. I meant that sincerely.  Thousands of lawsuits, from small claims to Fortune 500 companies suing each other, are filed every day. Taking your life because you&#039;re involved in one is totally and completely overreacting.  Some perspective was sorely needed. Again, assuming this story is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam you give me more credit than I deserve. I meant that sincerely.  Thousands of lawsuits, from small claims to Fortune 500 companies suing each other, are filed every day. Taking your life because you&#8217;re involved in one is totally and completely overreacting.  Some perspective was sorely needed. Again, assuming this story is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11815</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You are more likely to be divorced than to be sued for medical malpractice.&quot;

Really?  I keep hearing doctors say that statistically, they get sued every five years or ten years or something like that.  Don&#039;t most marriages last longer than that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are more likely to be divorced than to be sued for medical malpractice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?  I keep hearing doctors say that statistically, they get sued every five years or ten years or something like that.  Don&#8217;t most marriages last longer than that?</p>
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		<title>By: Supremacy Claus</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/08/the-trial-of-a-whitecoat-part-22/#comment-11811</link>
		<dc:creator>Supremacy Claus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are more likely to be divorced than to be sued for medical malpractice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are more likely to be divorced than to be sued for medical malpractice.</p>
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