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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know if you&#039;re still following after a week, but thanks for your response.

&lt;i&gt;Unfortunately there are people who are so out of range (100 lb plus) that take no effort such as yours to take healthier steps&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, our town is full of the truly obese.  I feel sad because they don&#039;t seem to know how to live differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re still following after a week, but thanks for your response.</p>
<p><i>Unfortunately there are people who are so out of range (100 lb plus) that take no effort such as yours to take healthier steps</i></p>
<p>Yeah, our town is full of the truly obese.  I feel sad because they don&#8217;t seem to know how to live differently.</p>
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		<title>By: DensityDuck</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/11/another-obesity-risk/#comment-14788</link>
		<dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another day, another thinly-veiled &quot;stop being such a fat fatty, you fat fatty, ps you&#039;re FAT you fatty mcfatserson stop being such a FAT DISGUSTING RICH AMERICAN FAT FAT FAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!&quot;

Given how low the obesity bar is set, it&#039;s hardly surprising that there&#039;s a &quot;correlation&quot; between obesity and cancer.  I&#039;m pretty sure there&#039;s a similar correlation between obesity and car wrecks, or obesity and getting kicked in the nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another day, another thinly-veiled &#8220;stop being such a fat fatty, you fat fatty, ps you&#8217;re FAT you fatty mcfatserson stop being such a FAT DISGUSTING RICH AMERICAN FAT FAT FAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Given how low the obesity bar is set, it&#8217;s hardly surprising that there&#8217;s a &#8220;correlation&#8221; between obesity and cancer.  I&#8217;m pretty sure there&#8217;s a similar correlation between obesity and car wrecks, or obesity and getting kicked in the nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: D'Vorah</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/11/another-obesity-risk/#comment-14717</link>
		<dc:creator>D'Vorah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked out the relevant website, and it would appear that the report on which the claims are based is self-published by the organization. While it&#039;s certainly possible that the conclusions are valid, I guess I just don&#039;t put too much faith in research that has not been published in an appropriate journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out the relevant website, and it would appear that the report on which the claims are based is self-published by the organization. While it&#8217;s certainly possible that the conclusions are valid, I guess I just don&#8217;t put too much faith in research that has not been published in an appropriate journal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mottsapplesauce</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/11/another-obesity-risk/#comment-14634</link>
		<dc:creator>Mottsapplesauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Seaspray... it was actually unintentional, if you can believe that. Part of the weight loss was from adding just a little more activity to my lifestyle so it wasn&#039;t all about changing eating
habits. I still have junk like chocolate &amp; fritos every now and then, but sparingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Seaspray&#8230; it was actually unintentional, if you can believe that. Part of the weight loss was from adding just a little more activity to my lifestyle so it wasn&#8217;t all about changing eating<br />
habits. I still have junk like chocolate &amp; fritos every now and then, but sparingly.</p>
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		<title>By: midwest woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>midwest woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about that...my comment was not referencing situations such as yours. With your diet and exercise regime, you&#039;re probably healthier than some thinner people. Somes studies have even suggested that a healthy weight not be so strigently tied to the BMI factor. Unfortunately there are people who are so out of range (100 lb plus) that take no effort such as yours to take healthier steps. Again my apologies...your effort is to be applauded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that&#8230;my comment was not referencing situations such as yours. With your diet and exercise regime, you&#8217;re probably healthier than some thinner people. Somes studies have even suggested that a healthy weight not be so strigently tied to the BMI factor. Unfortunately there are people who are so out of range (100 lb plus) that take no effort such as yours to take healthier steps. Again my apologies&#8230;your effort is to be applauded.</p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpray</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/11/another-obesity-risk/#comment-14610</link>
		<dc:creator>SeaSpray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marilyn ..your not alone there.  I felt bad when I read that too.

Like I said earlier..there are so many variables... with obesity. 

The thing with weight..if it were so easy to lose... everyone would do it.

There wouldn&#039;t be a huge industry for weight loss products, programs, meds, etc.

And if it were so easy to keep off ..most people would not gain it all back and then some.

there are plenty of addictions to go around.. with obesity ..your addiction shows for all the world to see.

It does seem unnecessary. i recently read in a book about surgeons .. where this one surgeon ..who wrestled with weight all his life stated that there is something in an overweight person&#039;s brain that keeps telling them they are hungry..even when they shouldn&#039;t be.  i will have to go find the book.

Just saying that it is not as black and white as it may seem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn ..your not alone there.  I felt bad when I read that too.</p>
<p>Like I said earlier..there are so many variables&#8230; with obesity. </p>
<p>The thing with weight..if it were so easy to lose&#8230; everyone would do it.</p>
<p>There wouldn&#8217;t be a huge industry for weight loss products, programs, meds, etc.</p>
<p>And if it were so easy to keep off ..most people would not gain it all back and then some.</p>
<p>there are plenty of addictions to go around.. with obesity ..your addiction shows for all the world to see.</p>
<p>It does seem unnecessary. i recently read in a book about surgeons .. where this one surgeon ..who wrestled with weight all his life stated that there is something in an overweight person&#8217;s brain that keeps telling them they are hungry..even when they shouldn&#8217;t be.  i will have to go find the book.</p>
<p>Just saying that it is not as black and white as it may seem.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/2009/11/another-obesity-risk/#comment-14607</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I never mentioned anything about people stuffing their faces in this post. &lt;/i&gt;

Sorry Dr. WC, I didn&#039;t mean to imply you were referring to people stuffing their faces!  It&#039;s just that recently I&#039;ve seen a lot of blog posts lately from medical professionals (doctors, nurses, etc.) alluding to the idea that obese people are less deserving of medical care than &quot;normals&quot; and the idea that all obesity has the identical cause.

This for example (though a milder comment than most I&#039;ve seen): &quot;&lt;i&gt;Every smoker we admit gets an order for a nicotine patch… the BMI impaired get a diet order for regular i.e. all you can eat.&lt;/i&gt;    

It made me blow a cork for sure. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I never mentioned anything about people stuffing their faces in this post. </i></p>
<p>Sorry Dr. WC, I didn&#8217;t mean to imply you were referring to people stuffing their faces!  It&#8217;s just that recently I&#8217;ve seen a lot of blog posts lately from medical professionals (doctors, nurses, etc.) alluding to the idea that obese people are less deserving of medical care than &#8220;normals&#8221; and the idea that all obesity has the identical cause.</p>
<p>This for example (though a milder comment than most I&#8217;ve seen): &#8220;<i>Every smoker we admit gets an order for a nicotine patch… the BMI impaired get a diet order for regular i.e. all you can eat.</i>    </p>
<p>It made me blow a cork for sure. <img src='http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpray</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeaSpray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Motts -Congrats on the 30lbs!  I know how hard that is.  :)

I love breakfast but have a hard time eating until mid afternoon and I am diabetic. I have to make myself. I&#039;d rather just drink coffee and water while doing things ..but then I eat more at night.

Good for you Motts.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Motts -Congrats on the 30lbs!  I know how hard that is.  <img src='http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I love breakfast but have a hard time eating until mid afternoon and I am diabetic. I have to make myself. I&#8217;d rather just drink coffee and water while doing things ..but then I eat more at night.</p>
<p>Good for you Motts.  <img src='http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SeaSpray</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeaSpray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read that toxins are stored in the adipose tissue ..which is also a good reason for sweating.. because that helps to remove the toxins.

So..possibly the additional toxins would be the reason for that. Or..is the immune system compromised because of the additional work of functioning from said adipose tissue?

Is there more stress?

Family history?

Environmental?

So many variables to be considered.

I&#039;m reading a book about having a healthy heart/circulation, etc. and I don&#039;t know if this is true.. but I am more at risk because I rarely drink alcohol.  Go figure. But can&#039;t alcohol increase your risk of cancer or is it certain kinds?

I know studies are important..but they can make you crazy. Then everyone hears the news blurb about why hormones taken in post menopausal women will protect their heart ..or eggs are bad for you .. or drink bottled water -bottled water is bad for you and everyone gets on the bandwagon for a few years and then another study counters it because the first study was skewed in some way, etc.  

It&#039;s so simple and yet so hard ..everything in moderation is probably the key.

There are definitely biases against overweight people..assumptions made and then other times ..right on target. I think most people are heavy because of an imbalance of calories in, energy expended and now they are saying lack of sleep.

Btw...I think it would be awesome if I actually got a consistent full night&#039;s sleep and lost weight! of course I&#039;d have to turn into Sleeping Beauty to lose what I want to. ;)

I have heard that for years that obese people were at higher risk for colon and breast cancers. But thin people do get the diseases too. Why the disparity in statistics? 

Again.. when it comes to weight studies... there are so many variables to be considered. 

I don&#039;t understand how a controlled study can *accurately* reflect the obese population so that it can realistically isolate *obesity* as the sole cause of increased cancer rates within that population.

Is it just simply.. when they count the numbers.. taking into consideration thin people have different variables too.. that over all ..statistically speaking.. it is still the heavier people with more cancers?

Still ..I&#039;d be curious to know the criteria used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read that toxins are stored in the adipose tissue ..which is also a good reason for sweating.. because that helps to remove the toxins.</p>
<p>So..possibly the additional toxins would be the reason for that. Or..is the immune system compromised because of the additional work of functioning from said adipose tissue?</p>
<p>Is there more stress?</p>
<p>Family history?</p>
<p>Environmental?</p>
<p>So many variables to be considered.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reading a book about having a healthy heart/circulation, etc. and I don&#8217;t know if this is true.. but I am more at risk because I rarely drink alcohol.  Go figure. But can&#8217;t alcohol increase your risk of cancer or is it certain kinds?</p>
<p>I know studies are important..but they can make you crazy. Then everyone hears the news blurb about why hormones taken in post menopausal women will protect their heart ..or eggs are bad for you .. or drink bottled water -bottled water is bad for you and everyone gets on the bandwagon for a few years and then another study counters it because the first study was skewed in some way, etc.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so simple and yet so hard ..everything in moderation is probably the key.</p>
<p>There are definitely biases against overweight people..assumptions made and then other times ..right on target. I think most people are heavy because of an imbalance of calories in, energy expended and now they are saying lack of sleep.</p>
<p>Btw&#8230;I think it would be awesome if I actually got a consistent full night&#8217;s sleep and lost weight! of course I&#8217;d have to turn into Sleeping Beauty to lose what I want to. <img src='http://www.epmonthly.com/whitecoat/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have heard that for years that obese people were at higher risk for colon and breast cancers. But thin people do get the diseases too. Why the disparity in statistics? </p>
<p>Again.. when it comes to weight studies&#8230; there are so many variables to be considered. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how a controlled study can *accurately* reflect the obese population so that it can realistically isolate *obesity* as the sole cause of increased cancer rates within that population.</p>
<p>Is it just simply.. when they count the numbers.. taking into consideration thin people have different variables too.. that over all ..statistically speaking.. it is still the heavier people with more cancers?</p>
<p>Still ..I&#8217;d be curious to know the criteria used.</p>
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		<title>By: Mottsapplesauce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mottsapplesauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, WC. I&#039;m considered obese, and the majority of my adipose tissue is in my trunk.
I&#039;ve been on diets (legit &amp; not-so-legit), taken weight loss supplements, exercised, you name it...
My history of corticosteroid dependence played a big role in my weight issues. But finally, I lost 30 lbs in the last 5 months just by changing not only what I eat, but when I eat it &amp; how much. I made breakfast my biggest meal of the day, and with very little exercise, managed to lose those 30 lbs. Everybody thinks I&#039;m taking some magic potion! The thought that excess fat may lead to cancer is very frightening for me though, because I also rely on an anti-TNF alpha drug to control my symptoms of Crohn&#039;s disease, which also increases my risk of cancer....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, WC. I&#8217;m considered obese, and the majority of my adipose tissue is in my trunk.<br />
I&#8217;ve been on diets (legit &amp; not-so-legit), taken weight loss supplements, exercised, you name it&#8230;<br />
My history of corticosteroid dependence played a big role in my weight issues. But finally, I lost 30 lbs in the last 5 months just by changing not only what I eat, but when I eat it &amp; how much. I made breakfast my biggest meal of the day, and with very little exercise, managed to lose those 30 lbs. Everybody thinks I&#8217;m taking some magic potion! The thought that excess fat may lead to cancer is very frightening for me though, because I also rely on an anti-TNF alpha drug to control my symptoms of Crohn&#8217;s disease, which also increases my risk of cancer&#8230;.</p>
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